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level. secondarily, if you say deficit reduction, the partisan are leeched out. we are talking about whether it will work to balance the budget. if along the way 35 million become uninsured, that's sad but we don't talk about it because cbo didn't mention it in the score. that's the great trick of paul ryan to recognize if you only talk about budget deficit, where does your budget put the deficit 20, 30 years from now, the amount of things you sneak in under that cloak that you can never put into the conversation in a serious way in normal times is tremendous. that's the central political innovation of his career. >> the favorite thing in the accounting discussion is compare the government to a family, saying you couldn't -- well, families do run debt, they cannot afford to buy their houses for cash, so they have a thing called a mortgage, which is the national debt of the family in effect. they try to oversimplify everything in this, but is there some break through in this point of republicans saying you know what, the debt isn't such a serious problem? >> there's no break through.
for that, because we had the great recession, and we needed to engage in some deficit spending to offset that demand contraction. historically the debt goes up in periods like this. in world war ii, it breached 100%, then a few years later it was 50%. the debt is expected to start coming down within a few years. over the long term, there are real pressures on the debt through health care costs. that's what i would tell mr. penny. >> excellent. that's very helpful. josh, the president last week was secured on the right for suggesting there was no dead crisis in american. later in the week this is what speaker boehner and paul ryan had to say. take a listen. >> is he right, that we don't have an immediate crisis. >> we do not have an immediate debt crisis. >> we do not have a debt crisis right now, but we see it's coming. it's irrefutably happening. >> what are they doing by repeatedly fanning into flame the notion of a debt crisis, when they themselves when asked directly say exactly what jared said. in the immediate short term, it is not a pressing issue. >> it's because it's instrumenta
class. at least we have a budget now and at least democrats now can show that deficit reduction can be done responsible. responsibly. >> the lack of a bunt has been an effective talking point for republicans. why do you think they haven't reached an agreement? >> because they're democrats. they have a hard time reaching an agreement about anything. that's why they're democrats. the progressive caucus shows that it is possible to reduce the budget deficit by taking even more away from big corporations reducing corporate welfare to an even larger extent reigning in tax loopholes, and so-called tax expenditures. the democratic budget and senate budget is a very good place to begin. i think the progressive caucus's budget is much better. >> analysts are saying this budget is to the left of obama. many on the left would say we should have expected that. does this give the president the opportunity to bring people together and get some sort of grand bargain by throwing things less liked under the bus. >> there is not going to be a grand bargain. the right wing controls the republican part
, taxes, spending and deficits. and the notion that they're going to somehow come together, there's really no, no, i guess, carrot for them to go after here. >> and then they go home for two weeks. >> sure. >> and the question is are they going to hear anything from their constituents that's going to move anybody. i don't know. >> i think that they're not. and the best chance that they had to potentially hear about it was with the potential for a government shutdown, which has now been averted. so again, back to this new pace rhine of these big debates over real issues that are kind of going nowhere. and a new baseline that incidentally it's interesting because their stopgap spending bill that was passed yesterday did mark something of a breakthrough in that the appropriators in the house and the senate, the bipartisan leaderships thereof were able to come together and come up with a spending plan that keeps the government solvent and keeps it operating. and so i think that now we are going to see the appropriators get, you know, being able to get together hopefully and work out these, you
? and also the idea that the federal government can't have a deficit, it's crazy. the republicans have somehow adopted this and sold the american people that the most important thing facing this congress and country is to balance the federal budget. no, it's not. how about creating jobs? how about repairing our infrastructure? repairing our bridges and our highways and sewage treatment plans and all of that? how about investing in new energy projects and new medical advances and a cure for cancer? that's a hell of a lot more important than balancing the freakin' budget. that's the first thing wrong with this ryan budget. the second thing is that the ryan budget destroys medicare. still does. we talked about it this is the same damn budget that they passed two years ago, that they passed last year. it would shut down medicare for anybody who is not already in it, cut benefits for those who are, but shut down medicare for anybody who is not in it and replace it with a voucher. a voucher that would not even come close to buying you health care from a private insuran
already huge amounts of money and deficit reduction. it's just not appropriate, mr. president. that our military can't train and do the maintenance necessary. these men and women our marines were training there in hawthorne and with the sequester it's going to cut the stuff back. >> can i tell you marine corps officials this afternoon are taking a strong exception to what harry reid implied, saying that this exercise, for example, was planned well in advance had nothing to do with the bucket -- budget cuts, there were no corners cut. >> bill: this is what i object to. reid is exploiting the death of these marines who were just out in nevada because that terrain is similar to afghanistan. they had a mortar. the mortar malfunctioned and blew up. it had nothing to do with the sequester. he exploits this for political gain. that's just awful, is it not. >> let me say one thing. harry has a unique ability to use wrong words at the wrong time. however in his defense he he never ever associated the two of those together. >> bill: wait, we just heard him do that. he said the sequester and this
and iraq were fought as quote emergencies, which means they weren't included in the annual deficits. so, now, when they're talking about a budget that cuts student loan programs for gi members, people coming back from iraq and afghanistan now they're not getting their student loans. because this was all fought off budget. i think that's political malpractice on the part of the republican party. they should have budgeted for this. >> well, from a congressional physician of the soul like diana degette, thank you so much. now to dr. james peterson, msnbc analyst and director of africana st studies. professor, millions oppose the war, but as you know, and i'm sure you remember, their voices were significantly marginalized. give us a sense of how that happened. >> there's a lot of context here. we have to start with the fact that the sort of american ethos in response to 9/11 was a sort of patriotism, people not in line with the government and a very war hawkish administration seemed to be anti-american. so in that environment, the voices that were speaking out against this war, but in that
in that report because they really don't have an answer. they want to cut taxes and cut the deficit at the same time. those are their two agenda items. you can't do both. they are just trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. >> now, when you look at the reaction, patricia, there's no wonder they are being defeated at the polls and poll after poll shows that americans are not going their way but i think this only further drives the wedge between the american voters because people are offended when it is clear you are not even being honest with them. >> well, yeah. and i think what americans are really want is just an honest discussion of the issues and if people come at an issue and have an honest disagreement and use facts that are accurate, you can have that discussion and debate. but when you come out of a discussion with facts that are not true that "the washington post" says are four pin knock key ohios, you can't even start to talk about things in an honest way and that's why michele bachmann has gotten into so much trouble. she won her last wasn't by a point. she's a huge target for de
the deficit long term. the democrat budget, of course, talks about a big tax hike over ten years of about $1 trillion. republicans say they're not going to do that. they want to roll back obama care. these are the two outside extreme positions. that's where we're at now. going forward can they come together and find some middle ground? >> weigh in on that, lauren. is there really a chance for reconciling these two extreme budgets? >> i think david kind of nailed it here. when it comes to the budgets, they're just a little bit too far, but this budget process isn't a waste of time. i think it's promising that they went through regular order. this is something that the senate hasn't done. they haven't passed a budget this a long time. i think what we'll see is this may open the door to pass some appropriations bilts for 2014 and this could put us on the road for a long-term deficit reduction deal. these are just opening gothss here. >> david, as i look at your article, it focuses on immigration reform and how it's making its way through the senate. where do things stand right now? >> alex, the
gone through a state where wisconsin had faced a multibillion $budget deficit. we saw some of the record jobs will we've seen in the past. what did we do? we took that $3.6 billion and -- half a billion surplus. we lowered the overall taxes for the first time in years. taxes on homes have gone down in each of the last two years. [applause] but when it comes to jobs under my predecessors terms wisconsin lost 300,000 jobs and just 10% of our employers were headed in the right direction. today we're gaining jobs and 93% of the employers says that wisconsin is heading in the right direction. we can leave with an optimistic message. simply put in we showed in our election who do you want in charge, the big government or do you want the hard working taxpayers, the hard working taxpayers win out and they will win out over and over again. in america, we need to show an optimistic message that we're not standing with the big businesses of america, we're standing with the hard-working taxpayers and this is the message that can resonate throughout this country. [applause] now, in addi
deficits and debt. how can you not worry about that. they do seem integrally involved in phobia, a lot of we don't want anybody else coming to this country. >> yeah, yeah, that's -- that's true, chris. it's this idea that they're losing their country. they fear change. they fear -- they're anxious about the change that we see. we see the browning of america. we see, you know, the gay rights movement is preceding at pace. you know, we saw the first female speaker of the house not too long ago. so it's this change that they have a problem dealing with, chris. and let me get to the point about -- >> why would somebody care -- i always wondered about this. why would somebody who is white care about whether the country is white 100 years from now? they're not going to be here. and the people here would be comfortable with it. your nature will change with the country's nature. it does sound like pure racism. if you want the country to be tribally white 100 years from now. i don't know why a black person would care either. why do people speculate the way they think what the country will be li
-income americans to reduce the deficit. so now, finally, senate democrats feel that they can go ahead and echo that position. that's change. >> an narc the president is expected to release the white house budget in april. what kind of compromises, if any, can we expect to see there? >> i think he is going to kind of come up and say the same things that he has been saying. we will look at the changes he will make to the entitlement program. the republicans saying they will not raise tax and what the democrats might do on entitlement reforms if they can find any kind of common ground that would be possible there. >> bill schneider, anna palmer, stick around. we would like to come back to you later in the hour, if that's okay with you. >> sure. >> thanks. >>> could bill clinton be talking out of both sides of his mouth? the report that suggests escorting two candidates for the same office. we will talk about that. >>> first though, kristen cinema is here, very excited about being here. we just had a 15-minute conversation to make up. we can't talk about that. we can talk immigration, marriage equ
't even know we had a national debt or deficit. but then a grassroots movement known as the tea party started to emerge. [cheers and applause] and what made the tea party so effective was not only it came from the grassroots, but it had three core values; fiscal responsibility, constitutionally-limited government and free markets. and because of the tea party, we were able to put patriots like michele bachmann, joe walsh into congress so they can make sure that congress will not continue to spend my generation's money. [applause] we need to save the tea party so that we can save america. [applause] ladies and gentlemen, please welcome jenny martin from the tea party patriots. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> thank you. [cheers and applause] picture this: college students in this country who are optimistic about the future and look forward to living the american dream. after college they pursue their careers and begin to make a living. they become parents and put food on the table for their children, save for their retirement and still have money left for leisure activities and vacations.
to the president to prevent default. i have to tell you, wolf. we can't keep running up deficits like this. it will damage our economy deeply and people are saying that we don't have a crisis on the horizon. of course we do. we've got a debt that is on a tear right now. if the debt takes off like it's projected to do, it's not only hurting our economy today but destroying it for the next generation. we just can't sit around and be complicit with that. that means we have to do something about it. >> let me get your thoughts on a couple sensitive issues coming before congress. immigration reform. do you support a pathway to citizenship for the 11 or 12 million illegal immigrants in the united states? >> well, i think we can get the comprehensive immigration reform. i support reform. i supported the bush reforms in 2005 and 2006. i think we can find a way of making sure that people here with an undocumented status have an ability to adjust that status. we're not going to be able to deport 12 million people. and there is a way to do this without rewarding them for breaking the line or breaking
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